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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby cragganmor » March 2, 2018, 10:12 am

Should check out deandre hunter, a red shirt frosh out of uva who stunned Louisville last night. 6'7" with a 7'2" wingspan, smooth 3 pt shot, lockdown potential and defends multiple positions. Dunno if he's entering the draft but a guy to look out for.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby Don Che » March 2, 2018, 10:52 am

yeh hes def staying in VA...wish he was declaring
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby nazrmohamed » March 3, 2018, 8:49 am

cragganmor wrote:Check out Melvin Frazier, a 6'6" sf with 7'3" wingspan, great motor and quicks from Tulane:

https://youtu.be/McCVdpx1DFI

Besides a lockdown defender, he's also efficient, 58% fg overall, 40% from the arc, 3 apg. A versatile and complete player


Damn, haven't seen defensive footwork like that since Anunobe who I must plug. Started off slow and now getting huge minutes on Toronto. Good find and as Don said if we can find in the second round I'd be happy.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby cragganmor » March 6, 2018, 9:25 pm

yeah, i like og, too. he's figured out how to help his team and he's the difference maker on d; helps valanciunas by being able to collapse into the paint and recover quickly.

hunter could be the next og, but more skilled.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby thewatcher » March 7, 2018, 7:25 pm

Gus Johnson and Bill rafferty announcing Georgetown st John's. Ponds is special.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby cragganmor » March 11, 2018, 7:17 am

Jessie Govan is an interesting talent, could be a quality player.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby thewatcher » March 11, 2018, 11:20 am

^^ yeah he's a load who can shoot, looks like a lottery pick to me. If we can get Ponds with a second rounder, that would be great.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby nazrmohamed » March 11, 2018, 7:58 pm

Something that should be of note

The Clippers, 76rs AND Suns have 2 first round picks this year and none have a later pick than 20. So we're talking about 2 prospects from 11-20. I might be enticed to trade back.

So assuming this were how it went down
www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2018-nba-mock-draft.html?m=1

We could end up with
Clippers-Young/JPorter or Williams or Musa
76rs-Knox/KThomas or so many decent players in that range
Suns- you get the point.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby rebound » March 12, 2018, 12:21 pm

i think the guys availabel at 8 or 9 are worth keeping: mikal bridges, collin sexton
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby Mike1989 » March 12, 2018, 3:21 pm

nazrmohamed wrote:Something that should be of note

The Clippers, 76rs AND Suns have 2 first round picks this year and none have a later pick than 20. So we're talking about 2 prospects from 11-20. I might be enticed to trade back.

So assuming this were how it went down
http://www.nbadraftroom.com/p/2018-nba- ... t.html?m=1

We could end up with
Clippers-Young/JPorter or Williams or Musa
76rs-Knox/KThomas or so many decent players in that range
Suns- you get the point.


If our favored players are not available at #9 because Ayton, Bamba, Jackson, Porter, Bagley, Young, Doncic and Mikal Bridges have all gone, then I would like to think that our front office consider trading back if that option is on the cards. If we could walk away from the draft with a combination like Miles Bridges/Kevin Knox and Troy Brown/Khyri Thomas, then I would be pretty happy with that duo because one of those forwards would likely have been the pick at 9 and we've gained another pick to boost our young roster with. So it's a win-win for us.

rebound wrote:i think the guys availabel at 8 or 9 are worth keeping: mikal bridges, collin sexton


I think a lot of it depends on how the draft falls. For example, let's say we pick 9 and the draft goes as follows (draft order based on league standings):

1. Doncic, Memphis
2. Ayton, Phoenix
3. Young, Orlando
4. Porter, Atlanta
5. Bamba, Cleveland
6. Jackson Jr, Dallas
7. Bagley, Sacramento
8. Mikal Bridges, Chicago

At this point in time we would probably choose one of the following players:

- Colin Sexton, PG; Miles Bridges, SF/PF; Kevin Knox, SF/PF; Wendell Carter, PF/C

I'll be honest, that is not a massively appealing set of players because my favorites have already gone off the board. So I could be tempted by the Clippers offer because #11 and #17 might land us a decent combination. Let's say the Clippers have traded up to select Colin Sexton because they want to add their future stud point guard and the Hornets decide to draft Wendell Carter. So by trading back to #11 we get a player we would likely have selected at #9 (and even if the Hornets pick Knox or Miles, we could pick the remaining player or draft Carter who projects as a nice fit next to KP) and another pick that could turn into a player like Robert Williams (PF/C, Texas A&M), Troy Brown (SG, Oregon), Daniel Gafford (PF, Arkansas), or Khyri Thomas (SG, Creighton). That's two decent talents for the price of one decent talent.

The only time I wouldn't trade back is if one of the top seven prospects fell to us at #9. For example, if Trae Young is available I think we should select him and not think twice about it. If Bamba or Jackson fall for whatever reason, again we should select them and not think twice about it. However, if those players are off the board then I would be open to a trade back because we would still likely get one of the players we would have taken at #9 and added another pick to boost our young roster. Even if Mikal is available at #9 I would consider it if I felt certain that the Clippers and Hornets would not take him, but that's a bit risky. Essentially I think a trade back is an option if we remain at #9.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby Don Che » March 14, 2018, 7:22 pm

id be miserable if the draft goes like that lol
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby NewlyKnicked » March 15, 2018, 9:33 am

On another note, that must seem obvious to some of you and I knew that there were different rules in NCAA, but I never realized there were so many:
- 12-min quarters versus 20-min halves
- shot clock is 6s longer
- 3pt line is 4 feet closer to the basket
- paint is 4 feet wider in the NBA
- 5 fouls allowed
- defensive 3s
just to name a few

It results in quite different tactics which is detrimental to the players to adapt to the next level. Why do the NCAA and NBA get on the same page? Is their an effort towards that goal?

same thing with foreign leagues. I don't get why there are so many sets of rules for the same game...
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby Don Che » March 15, 2018, 10:33 am

based on the draft going as Mike mentioned and picking from: Colin Sexton, PG; Miles Bridges, SF/PF; Kevin Knox, SF/PF; Wendell Carter, PF/C


i can't tell you who i'd pick...better yet im not sure if i'd even pick them lol
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby cragganmor » March 15, 2018, 12:37 pm

The big tourney will make/break some player profiles and some guys will really blossom just before the draft (like Donovan).
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby nazrmohamed » March 15, 2018, 4:05 pm

Don Che wrote:id be miserable if the draft goes like that lol


Me too because that means we're drafting Carter. I'd immediately be reaching out to the Clippers and 76rs to trading down.

Draft Miles and.....my scouting doesn't really extend too pick 18. You pick it.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby noypi » March 16, 2018, 8:39 pm

rebound wrote:i think the guys availabel at 8 or 9 are worth keeping: mikal bridges, collin sexton


I'd take Sexton then worry about the guard logjam later. Gotta see what Mudiay and Burke can do next year. Then trade one and keep one. Gotta keep Frank, he just grew an inch and doctors said another inch is coming so he better work on his strength and body we got ourselves a guy who can play 1-3 with good versatility.

Also, with Oklahoma out of the tournament, some kid's stock is gonna rise and Young is gonna slip and we could very well pick him too.

Finally, better keep an eye on Orlando. They are likely gonna pick a pg and the best out there are Young and Sexton. Both pgs are not top 5 right now so Orlando could trade down to pick their pg and get some other assets on draft night.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby Don Che » March 21, 2018, 10:46 am

cragganmor wrote:Jessie Govan is an interesting talent, could be a quality player.


Would take him in the 2nd round
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby cragganmor » March 27, 2018, 10:46 am

Melvin Frazier just declared; didn't hire an agent, but I'd give him a tryout, have a long talk with him.
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby Don Che » March 27, 2018, 11:18 am

i think he's getting drafted theres a lot of fluff talent out there...Melvin isnt polished but his talent is legit
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Re: 2018 Draft Discussion

Postby cragganmor » March 27, 2018, 2:56 pm

He has the tools, especially the freak length and lateral quicks. Intangibles, definitely the high motor and air ethic. Made himself into a good shooter and his offensive skills are growing. Not flashy, but a guy that can grow into an NBA role. I think he'd be a fan fave quickly.
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