[2023, Pre-Season Game 4] Wizards v Knicks, Wednesday 18 October, 7:30pm, MSG

[spree#8]

Quickley is Out for tonight.

Knicks have cut and waived Isaiah Roby and Jaylen Martin..

Happenstance or looming trade? Knicks open two roster spots, and claim Quickley is “nicked up”…

We still have to cut two more players or cut one and convert one to a two-way deal. No standard roster spot was created by the cuts, we are still over the regular season limit (17 guys under contract, 15 allowed).

So just the first cuts that had to be made.

Still under review: Arcidiacono, Jeffries, Washington, Brown and Toppin. Maybe even the other two-way guys Windler and Night.

[NewlyKnicked]

Worrying because of how far we are from playing well in a game that was supposed to be a pseudo regular season game against a bad team.

Now, better now than later. We have a week or so before season start and it may be a positive kick in the groin type of wake-up call for a team who may have seen itself better than it is. We won’t go far if we don’t put 100%.

Grinders gotta grind

[maxinquaye11]

Re-watched the game again. I'm happy because there seems to be an emphasis on quick inbounding and outlet passing to the sidelines during transition. This to me is the key to high percentage fgs where the likes of RJ can thrive.

Pre-season is all about testing and establishing great starts in the first and the 3rd quarters which I believe happened . The rest of the game is giving bench players the opportunity to tryout in order to become part of the 2nd unit.

Barrett is fine as long as we don't expect him to take the next level anymore. He is who he is he just needs to be consistent. I'd rather have a consistent 18ppg RJ than a 20+ppg that is hot and downright cold the next 9 games or so.

I love McBride's defense but DVV's cerebral and dog play are undeniable. This guy is a killer.

We have a deep bench and this should force coach to consider having a 10man rotation instead of 9 especially at the the start of the regular season. I don't personally believe that shortening the rotation impacts winning at all but that's just me.

Randle's new clean cut hair looks terrific! Gives me the impression that he is a professional and is now all about taking care of business! He also appears to be faster and lighter. Quicker first step and all.

I'm pumped! Go Knicks!

[bigjeep4]

if bumson shows up for most of the season, the knicks wont make the playoffs.

desperate leon better not trade any more first round picks.

[Gheppetto]

We still have to cut two more players or cut one and convert one to a two-way deal. No standard roster spot was created by the cuts, we are still over the regular season limit (17 guys under contract, 15 allowed).

So just the first cuts that had to be made.

Still under review: Arcidiacono, Jeffries, Washington, Brown and Toppin. Maybe even the other two-way guys Windler and Night.

Just going by what Macri reported.

Interesting.

Martin was on a two-way, but it’s a 2-year deal as @FredKatz pointed out today. As for Roby, there was some thought he might actually get time this season. So much for that.

Knicks now have 2 open roster spots plus 1 non-gtd contract (Jeffries) and an open 2-way.

https://x.com/jcmacrinba/status/1714751 ... RNuQQ1nEhQ

[NYGM]

Re-watched the game again. I'm happy because there seems to be an emphasis on quick inbounding and outlet passing to the sidelines during transition. This to me is the key to high percentage fgs where the likes of RJ can thrive.

Pre-season is all about testing and establishing great starts in the first and the 3rd quarters which I believe happened . The rest of the game is giving bench players the opportunity to tryout in order to become part of the 2nd unit.

Barrett is fine as long as we don't expect him to take the next level anymore. He is who he is he just needs to be consistent. I'd rather have a consistent 18ppg RJ than a 20+ppg that is hot and downright cold the next 9 games or so.

I love McBride's defense but DVV's cerebral and dog play are undeniable. This guy is a killer.

We have a deep bench and this should force coach to consider having a 10man rotation instead of 9 especially at the the start of the regular season. I don't personally believe that shortening the rotation impacts winning at all but that's just me.

Randle's new clean cut hair looks terrific! Gives me the impression that he is a professional and is now all about taking care of business! He also appears to be faster and lighter. Quicker first step and all.

I'm pumped! Go Knicks!

I was about to ask if there were any positives to this game but this post answer some of that.

Hopefully that translates to the regular season.

[spree#8]

Just going by what Macri reported.

Interesting.

Martin was on a two-way, but it’s a 2-year deal as @FredKatz pointed out today. As for Roby, there was some thought he might actually get time this season. So much for that.

Knicks now have 2 open roster spots plus 1 non-gtd contract (Jeffries) and an open 2-way.

https://x.com/jcmacrinba/status/1714751 ... RNuQQ1nEhQ

(Technically) not true, but probably just worded badly by Macri. The mentioned 5 guys in my post are on unguaranteed contracts (1) or training camp deals (4), so we could open three spots, if we waive everyone (going from 17 to 12), but right now we are still two over the limit (15), not under. And the two cuts have nothing to do with that logic by Macri, because Roby was on an unguaranteed contract himself and Martin just a two-way player.

So as I said: just the first necessary cuts. Nothing to see here.

I have to admit: in my roster sheet, I have actually two open roster spots though, because I will update it with the guys earning the standard contracts once the final cuts are made or until we waive every training camp invite and sign another team's cut player(s). No need to get too attached to training camp invitees.

[bobhait]

my one takeaway from preseason: nobody got injured

[spree#8]

my one takeaway from preseason: nobody got injured

Yeah, not much to see here. Already doomed by the schedule: one game where your opponent sits 5 players, one game where you sit 5 players (both because of back-to-backs in the pre-season; who had that genius idea?), one other game where your starters don't play big minutes and one where probably every rotation player thinks "let's get over with this". From this article: https://nypost.com/2023/10/19/what-knic ... 24-season/

So my final impression on the preseason is a question: What are we doing here? Or, what’s the point?

Asked to sum up the preseason, Jalen Brunson cut to the chase.

“It’s over,” he responded.

Starters still looked ready to go. All have positive net ratings in their preseason time on the floor (Brunson +23.7, Robinson +9.4, Randle +8.7, Grimes +8.7 and Barret +3.6), but the bench sucked so far. Not THAT surprising though with only 12 guys on guaranteed contracts and the other nine guys trying to stick on the team. Lots of random line-ups.

Good thing is the continuity we have, so once the regular season starts, that bench unit will be cleaned up.

[Rusty La Rue]

Yeah let us all loose our shit over the pre-season games... Let us see where we are at 15-20 games into the season... and wait to draw any conclusions before that...

[maxinquaye11]

Re-watched the game again. I'm happy because there seems to be an emphasis on quick inbounding and outlet passing to the sidelines during transition. This to me is the key to high percentage fgs where the likes of RJ can thrive.

Pre-season is all about testing and establishing great starts in the first and the 3rd quarters which I believe happened . The rest of the game is giving bench players the opportunity to tryout in order to become part of the 2nd unit.

Barrett is fine as long as we don't expect him to take the next level anymore. He is who he is he just needs to be consistent. I'd rather have a consistent 18ppg RJ than a 20+ppg that is hot and downright cold the next 9 games or so.

I love McBride's defense but DVV's cerebral and dog play are undeniable. This guy is a killer.

We have a deep bench and this should force coach to consider having a 10man rotation instead of 9 especially at the the start of the regular season. I don't personally believe that shortening the rotation impacts winning at all but that's just me.

Randle's new clean cut hair looks terrific! Gives me the impression that he is a professional and is now all about taking care of business! He also appears to be faster and lighter. Quicker first step and all.

I'm pumped! Go Knicks!

Quick inbounding check

DDv as starter check

Barrett consistent 18ppg instead of 20+ has become OG

Randle llooking like a professional and is all about the business check

Mcbride uncheck

10 man rotation because of Precious might not happen though. We’ll see!

Keep me Pumpin! Go Knicks!

[nazrmohamed]

We revived a preseason game? I don't understand

[bobhait]

We revived a preseason game? I don't understand

my man 2PGdamus got some predictions right that hit by January 1, so he had to flex

[maxinquaye11]

Mcbride check!

10man rotation check or uncheck? Hmm

[maxinquaye11]

Mcbride check

From 9man to 10man rotation check or uncheck?

What say you bobhait?

You dont have to worry about it naz (brunson voice) if you dont get it. Important thing is you now love the 2pg which seems to also be the direction of the FO given its trade targets

[maxinquaye11]

Re-watched the game again. I'm happy because there seems to be an emphasis on quick inbounding and outlet passing to the sidelines during transition.

I love McBride's defense but DVV's cerebral and dog play are undeniable. This guy is a killer.

KILLER DDV! A dog I tell you! Grimes knew beforehand like we did. He was so pressured he couldn’t do squat and begged to come off the bench behind Donte.