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This.. Offensively Randle fits like no one..Don Che wrote:We just gotta put ourselves in a position to sign Julius Randle if we don't draft a front court player.
He fits in with KP and Frank like no one else
Well you can argue that you didn't want THJ... But Knicks management did want him... You do not go after restricted FA for fun as it locks up your cap... It makes no sense to offer 60m if you feel that offer would be matched... that is just a complete waste of time... So it the knicks management felt THJ was the way to go (and here you can agree or disagree)... they would have to put together an offer they felt the Hawks would not match... I read at the time the Hawks were considering a 4 year deal starting at around 14m the first season that is a 56-62m contract over 4 years... So in my book you at least have to be 65-67m range if you want to steal him away from the Hawks... the Knicks went to 71m because they apparently really wanted him...H20Knick wrote:The hawks gave dennis shroder 4yr/70 mil the October prior to THJ's signing
they were not going to give a guy that had just recently made it to the starting lineup (after they'd sent him to the dleague a year prior) anywhere near a comparable to dennis. The knicks gave up 4 years/71 mil. We overpaid. MAYBE the hawks would've done 4/60. But we definitely didn't need to go all the way to 71.. and if they'd matched at 60? So what. THJ is completely replaceable.
Mr3037 wrote:The only way we are signing anyone of any real significance is if Kanter &/or KOQ opt out AND we dont bring either back.
Randle needs to see how he fits and how the future could be..big_j_NY wrote:I was low key one of the people hoping the Knicks would've made a dark horse trade for Julius Randle by the trade deadline, since I agree with Don.......Randle seems to be a perfect fit in the front court whether we decide to play KP at either the 4 or 5. Randle has managed to develop his body to bang alongside true bigs, and he is also laterally quick enough to keep up with stretch 4s on rotation switches on defense.
and keep KP at 4?Don Che wrote:Perfect
also Randle has seen the light now that he's playing the 5 more...and defending very well...he gave Embiid fits earlier in the year...Get him HERE!
Nope, of course he is restricted, he is coming off his 4th year. There was just chatter that LA won't keep him long-term (maybe even trading him - which didn't happen, Clarkson was traded instead), because they might want to chase superstars this summer. That's not a sure thing, so the odds of Randle returning to LA are high.NYGM wrote: Randle needs to see how he fits and how the future could be..
He's unrestricted right? LA dclined to extend him and he's free now?..
Hopefully we can sell him to play a bigger role next season with KP out and joining a up and coming team once KP return..
They're going to sign KD and LBJ after Houston wins it all, and Lavar Ball will tweet some crazy shit about a new BIG 3Don Che wrote:LA is prepping for a super team...if they succeed.... randle won't be there
They have to find someone better to sign with that cap space first, so I wouldn't expect them to renounce his rights early in free agency. Might be an opportunity for some team to get him to sign an offer sheet and put pressure on the Lakers though.cragganmor wrote:Lakers want the max cap space, will make splashy moves this summer. Randle's cap hold would jeopardize that, expect them to renounce his rights, unless plans go awry.
that is an accurate Randle synopsis prior to this year..his game has really mad strides and weirdly enough...its been at the 5 that hes had some success. with KP he'd defend the 4..but would work the pivot on offense and would be guarded by 5's since most teams dont have 5's that can cover KP at the 3 point line.Championship 16/17 wrote:I would pass on Randle, as i prefer someone like Mohammad Bamba next to KP. Someone just as powerful as Randle but has legit center size, height, wingspan. Everyone assumes KP will be a center when he returns, I think the franchise player knows his strengths and believes he will still function as a PF. KP will never bang in the middle or stay in the middle. That leaves Randle to man the 5 position, defend the rim, etc. He is an undersized PF, extremely undersized for the Center position. I don't even think this kid has a 7 foot wingspan like Franky Smalls.
We need a legit 5 bc we have to cater to KP and his desire to play the 4 position. You don't bring in a player that plays the 4 and slide your franchise player to the 5. It would look ridiculously for a 7'3 guy guarding a perimeter player while we have a 6'6 Center guarding the middle.
Obviously, this is all predicated on if Bamba falls to us, which if that does happen, I predict Kanter will not be resigned and we get a small Forward type of player, while retaining Quinn on the low.
If Bamba is not available and we get Bridges, I don't see the Knicks picking Randle over Kanter or Quinn.
Also at the end of the day, Randle is a defensive liability.
Where is the success? Wins, individual accolades, etc or is it a 4th year rookie playing bully ball with centers bc he has a strong body. That's not success. The kid shoots less than 25% from the 3 point line. He can be successful with a center like Embiid but not a PF like KP. Randle needs someone in the middle, and KP isnt doing that. Like how Draymongmd green needs someone in the middle (Bogut, Zaza, Shaq a fool winner). There is a reason why green at the 5 isn't your starter, but only for stretches of the game. Randle isn't your starting 5 here, but for stretches of the game, and we don't need that right now.Don Che wrote:
that is an accurate Randle synopsis prior to this year..his game has really mad strides and weirdly enough...its been at the 5 that hes had some success. with KP he'd defend the 4..but would work the pivot on offense and would be guarded by 5's since most teams dont have 5's that can cover KP at the 3 point line.
Bambo or Randle next to KP would be interesting and unique to say the least. Bamba is way too thin tho..he's 220...to survive u gotta be 240 at his height. or atleast get a stronger base...Bamba's base is the biggest red flag to me.
