Boston is betting that Kryie will be unstoppable against top squads in the playoffs..
Starbury3 wrote:Can someone tell me why this makes sense for the Celtics?
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Starbury3 wrote:Can someone tell me why this makes sense for the Celtics?
Exactly, Jae Crowder to me was a fill in to make salaries match. He didn't make an impact, he is equivalent to DeMar Carroll on Toronto who was traded to Brooklyn. People say how he is a great defender can hit the corner 3, he didn't do anything when it counted, he was a washed.H20Knick wrote:We all knew Jae Crowder was finished in Boston after he failed to have any impact offensively/defensively against Cleveland in the ECFs. The writing for JB to replace him was on the wall.
But it says a lot to me that Boston didn't go all in for Butler and George, but went all in for Irving. No one should know more about those guys than Boston (except maybe cleveland, who share their division). They faced Butler in the first round, they've been playing against PG for years, but they only came off all of those assets for Irving... Part of it of course had to do with Gordon Hayward being their guy and him playing a similar position to PG and Butler, part of it had to do with taking away Lebron's clean up guy, but assuredly there are people in Boston's front heralded front office who think extremely highly of kyrie.
So if the guy can't defend the best player in the league, he's "finished"? I understand that you don't value Crowder's offense (even though there'd be more to say than just dismiss it blindly) but his defensive value is undeniable. Boston just has the luxury of having his second-coming next in line making him expendable, but Crowder at 27 is far from finished.H20Knick wrote:We all knew Jae Crowder was finished in Boston after he failed to have any impact offensively/defensively against Cleveland in the ECFs. The writing for JB to replace him was on the wall.
But it says a lot to me that Boston didn't go all in for Butler and George, but went all in for Irving. No one should know more about those guys than Boston (except maybe cleveland, who share their division). They faced Butler in the first round, they've been playing against PG for years, but they only came off all of those assets for Irving... Part of it of course had to do with Gordon Hayward being their guy and him playing a similar position to PG and Butler, part of it had to do with taking away Lebron's clean up guy, but assuredly there are people in Boston's front heralded front office who think extremely highly of kyrie.
So you believe losing their best player (by far) for inconsistent D'Angelo is such an upgrade? Or are you betting on Mozgov's 3 ball maybe? Is it the overpaid disappointing Crabbe? Look at the Net's big men. They'll be bottom 5 no sweatChampionship 16/17 wrote:Exactly, Jae Crowder to me was a fill in to make salaries match. He didn't make an impact, he is equivalent to DeMar Carroll on Toronto who was traded to Brooklyn. People say how he is a great defender can hit the corner 3, he didn't do anything when it counted, he was a washed.
Also to add to the front office, they strategically didn't draft a PG but traded the pick for an extra pick and the player they wanted to select. Now the have a top 3 PG. Genius!
In my eyes, people say Irving is overrated, no Isaiah Thomas is overrated. From Cleveland s perspectives, do you pay a him max money to be the face of your franchise and pair him with Kevin Love next season. I would say that's a tough decision, there is a chance that you let him walk and start the rebuild.
Which leaves me to the 2018 pick, In my eyes that's what Boston essentially traded to get Kyrie. Now look at Brooklyn, they will be out of the top 5, I say Cavs select 6-8. Good luck!
Boston won this trade, and if you cannot see that I can't help you. You have to look deeper and also look at the last 5 transactions Ainge has done, he is winning.
Lastly, Gordon did work against Golden State last year in the playoffs, they were just a better team. He is gathering players that make an impact, and getting rid of shrubs. Also Jalen Brown is ready for prime time, watch how he starts the season. They hid him away while he was developing and featured Bradley who was never part of there future.
Wow, you like to twist things.NewlyKnicked wrote:
So you believe losing their best player (by far) for inconsistent D'Angelo is such an upgrade? Or are you betting on Mozgov's 3 ball maybe? Is it the overpaid disappointing Crabbe? Look at the Net's big men. They'll be bottom 5 no sweat
I agree Ainge has been pretty successful in his past trades, but it doesn't mean he shits gold every morning. Nobody's perfect, and this trade is not an overwhelming win for the Cs
Championship 16/17 wrote: Wow, you like to twist things.
This what I'm saying, the Brooklyn Nets will be a terrible team, but they won't be top 5 at the bottom. I'm predicting that the Cavs select between 6-8 in the 2018 Draft.
Also nobody said this was an overwhelming win for Boston, I'm staying they simply one this trade. If LeBron leaves, they are not resigning a 30 year old PG to lead there franchise. This is a one year rental, and the pick will be lowered than people think. This trade ensures Lebron stays competitive and this is not a wasted season, and they start rebuild with the pick.
Can anyone name me 5 teams worse than Brooklyn next season, let's make this interesting
Cuz they maybe had one more season to squeeze out of it. First that same crew all needed to get paid, so it actually gets more expensive to have the same familiarity and almost infinitley they wouldn't beat the Cavs. Second and more within that explanation, itd become more expensive while the star player in that crew (the Celtics are essentially a team of role players) is turning 30 soon, is 5'10 and is hurt. I gotta feel like Ainge knew isiah would start the path toward cronic injury and hoped he wouldn't get caught. He did and it cost him but in hindsight not much.gradyandrew wrote:It's a head scratcher. Thomas and Bradley was just a great story of friends who complimented each other and got to be starting next to each other in the NBA. Considering last season and their still cheap contracts, why not keep the same crew and add a win now player.
Instead it's a whole new play with Kyrie as the star. That's the reason he wanted out of Cleveland, and its tough to imagine Kyrie deferring to Howard or Brad Stevens if he chafed at working in Lebrons shadow.
Good luck with your bet.Koopa Troopa wrote:I just wanna say this now, I got the Wiz over Boston this year.
I think that first deal they made getting rid of Bradley was terrible. Now yeah Kyrie is great, but Boston has no defense anymore. Good luck with that.