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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby spree#8 » November 20, 2014, 3:36 am

Guys, what are you talking about? Every GM would take Andrew Wiggins above anyone else you mentioned.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby Don Che » November 20, 2014, 8:32 am

Disagree Klay is top 10 at his position and butler/taj aren't big names but they help you win games with defense and grit. Wiggins is a great talent for sure but none of the guys we mentioned are 30 or anything. Rubio is in his prime with lavin as is....we talk talent but u need guys who know how to win and jimmy/taj provide that.

Obv if Wiggins becomes a HOFer then I'm wrong but right now for an organization that haven't made the playoffs in how long...is take the guys that help me win now at 25 years old
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby spree#8 » November 20, 2014, 1:02 pm

Don Che wrote:Disagree Klay is top 10 at his position and butler/taj aren't big names but they help you win games with defense and grit. Wiggins is a great talent for sure but none of the guys we mentioned are 30 or anything. Rubio is in his prime with lavin as is....we talk talent but u need guys who know how to win and jimmy/taj provide that.

Obv if Wiggins becomes a HOFer then I'm wrong but right now for an organization that haven't made the playoffs in how long...is take the guys that help me win now at 25 years old


You disagree, but I'm pretty sure that every GM in the league agrees with me. :P The number one pick on a rookie scale contract for the next four years of the most heralded draft in years is that easy a choice to build your next team around.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby shakespeare » December 29, 2014, 9:34 pm

Kevin Love might be overrated.

Has the jury returned with a verdict, yet?
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby StevoStarks » December 30, 2014, 1:14 pm

Great players on bad teams are often brought down to earth when they move to a playoff ready assembled roster.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby Don Che » December 30, 2014, 7:44 pm

Lol well I'm still standing by Jimmy Butler and taj being a good package for love and every gm would do it now.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby nazrmohamed » December 31, 2014, 11:34 am

Don Che wrote:Lol well I'm still standing by Jimmy Butler and taj being a good package for love and every gm would do it now.


I wouldn't do it. Id do it with our players but I don't think Chicago would do it. Love would end up being Carlos Boozer there. And I don't bash his skills but Chicago wants to be the best defense every year and love doesn't do that.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby spree#8 » January 3, 2015, 6:49 am

Andrew Wiggins is already playing at 19 at the level Butler was playing with 24 last season. Wiggins is at least three more years on a cap friendly rookie contract and usually scouts aren't that wrong about a number one pick in one of the most heralded drafts in years. So it's nice how Butler is playing this year - to say the least - but Wiggins is still a much better choice to build around for a team like the Timberwolves. I can't see any GM rather building a team around Butler and Gibson making 25 mill per year.

Having said that, of course your package looks now way better because of the development jump from Butler. A player you would want to add to a contender.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby shakespeare » January 3, 2015, 11:43 am

Spree,

Minny wouldn't be building around Butler and Gibson, though. They'd be adding Jimmy and Taj to Rubio, Pevovic and Martin and whomever else. That's a solid core. I understand the "give Minny the benefit of the doubt," but they don't want it. They didn't build around Kevin Love nor Kevin Garnett and they're not gonna build around Andrew Wiggins. He'll be long gone by the time he starts making All-Star teams. I do agree about the cap friendly contract of Wiggins. That's probably what this trade was about (and the selling of potential), more than anything else. It certainly wasn't about winning basketball games.

Lastly, aren't the Knicks paying $25 million to build around Carmelo? If Minny is right, then doesn't that make New York wrong?
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby H20Knick » January 3, 2015, 1:18 pm

Shakes, Butler would have just signed the QO this offseason and left the next... Then what.

Wiggins isnt going to be long gone by the time he's better than jimmy butler. They've got him for a MINIMUM of the next 4 years.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby rebound » January 3, 2015, 8:35 pm

Wiggins is a fantastic player.
ROY this season and probablya 20ppg scorer by next season.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby shakespeare » January 12, 2015, 6:40 pm

Cavs coach David Blatt: Kevin Love is 'not a max player yet'

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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/eye-on-bas ... player-yet


What in the world was Cavs coach thinking? He gotta go.

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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby StevoStarks » January 12, 2015, 7:30 pm

That's how you light a fire under your players. Insult them!
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby Koopa Troopa » January 12, 2015, 9:45 pm

Kevin Love is a fraud. Kyrie Irving too.

These two are supposed "all star talents" yet cant win a game without LeBron James.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby taowave » January 12, 2015, 10:36 pm

Hard to argue that one

Koopa Troopa wrote:Kevin Love is a fraud. Kyrie Irving too.

These two are supposed "all star talents" yet cant win a game without LeBron James.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby thewatcher » January 15, 2015, 8:30 am

Koopa Troopa wrote:Kevin Love is a fraud. Kyrie Irving too.

These two are supposed "all star talents" yet cant win a game without LeBron James.
the truth! Love sat out 4th quarter again. Blatt sucking up to LeBron (who pushed him away from referee last night to "protect" him) :LOL: . LeBron running the show and his teammates don't seem very happy about it LOL. They're all in on JR

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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby H20Knick » January 15, 2015, 9:39 am

kyrie isn't a fraud... he's just young and has never played with any other big time players

geeez i never thought i'd have to be the one to defend a dookie
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby Koopa Troopa » January 15, 2015, 5:57 pm

H20Knick wrote:kyrie isn't a fraud... he's just young and has never played with any other big time players

geeez i never thought i'd have to be the one to defend a dookie


The guy is used to losing. Hes been on the Cavs his whole career. Same thing with Kevin Love. These guys are so used to losing they dont know what its like to win games anymore. Were talking about guys who disappear when the pressure is on. Kevin Love is starting to remind me of Keith Van Horn.

Kyrie isnt a fraud? But hes getting 8 turnovers in a game on a regular basis. :? Its not like hes playing on the Knicks where Melo hands guys the ball and they lose it out of bounds for a turnover on Melo. Hes playing with LeBron James. :arrow: Dwayne Wade's corpse is better.

And "hes young" is BS IMO. Kyrie is 22. Meanwhile, look at the Bucks. Antetokounmpo just turned 20, hes playing great team basketball and his team is winning. You're gonna tell me that Kyrie isnt a fraud when the Bucks have a better record than the Cavs? Kyrie Irving is supposed to be better than any player on the Bucks. K Love is supposed to be better than every player on the Bucks. Yet they cannot achieve a winning record, even with LeBron James. To me that says OVERRATED.
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby H20Knick » January 15, 2015, 7:36 pm

You know what I wanna know...

How come nobody blasts cleveland with the whole "THEY COULDVE JUST GOTTEN HIM IN THE OFFSEASON" bullshit?
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Re: Can we have a serious discussion about Kevin Love?

Postby Mr3037 » January 15, 2015, 7:39 pm

I dunno about Kyrie being a fraud or not but what's for damn sure is that Love does NOT fit with this Cavs team....
They have him posted at the 3pt line ffs?

With guys like LBJ, Irving & JR Smith when is Love supposed to touch the ball?
These guys all want the ball in their hands and when they are not shooting they wanna drive the lane where Love wants to post.

I just don't see it working & Love should look elsewhere
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