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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby Muzhik1 » December 25, 2017, 3:32 pm

Horrible coaching.
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby taowave » December 25, 2017, 3:32 pm

Don't discount Hardaway being out..

How did Beasly play?
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby Muzhik1 » December 25, 2017, 3:33 pm

Beasley makes foolish mistakes as usual, but Hornacek is not using him the right way.
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby Muzhik1 » December 25, 2017, 3:36 pm

Let's remember when Suns fired Hornacek, they lost 14 straight on the road. This road trip can cost him his job.
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby ISIAH_THOMAS » December 25, 2017, 3:36 pm

Scott Perry has a lot of work including a new coach
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby rebound » December 25, 2017, 3:41 pm

Perry needs to dump Lee. He's a huge cap hold in summer of 2019 that provides nothing of substance. Too small to be an effective defender against most SGs and SFs, too streaky a shooter to be a reliable scorer, poor court awareness to create for others.


Jack and Hornacek need to be out of the league.


Team Tank moves onward.
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby KnicksRUs » December 25, 2017, 4:01 pm

Lets relax there with "Team Tank" bud.

But Baker getting minutes is comical. Hornacek has relegated Dotson, our best shooter and one of our best on ball defenders, to the bench for this nobody.

Jack continues to be a scrub.

Also, we NEED Hardaway in the worst way. There's absolutely no one to go to down the stretch who can create their own shot. Porzingis doesn't count. For all his positives he's clueless with double teams. I don't trust him with the ball in his hands.
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby KnicksRUs » December 25, 2017, 4:03 pm

Muzhik1 wrote:Let's remember when Suns fired Hornacek, they lost 14 straight on the road. This road trip can cost him his job.


As much as I hate Hornacek his job is not in jeopardy this season.
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby KnicksRUs » December 25, 2017, 4:11 pm

rebound wrote:Perry needs to dump Lee. He's a huge cap hold in summer of 2019 that provides nothing of substance. Too small to be an effective defender against most SGs and SFs, too streaky a shooter to be a reliable scorer, poor court awareness to create for others.


Jack and Hornacek need to be out of the league.


Team Tank moves onward.


He's scoring 13 points a game on 46% shooting, 43% from 3........ That doesn't even make sense to say he provides "nothing of substance"
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby rebound » December 25, 2017, 4:13 pm

KnicksRUs wrote:
He's scoring 13 points a game on 46% shooting, 43% from 3........ That doesn't even make sense to say he provides "nothing of substance"



Watch the game? See when he scores and when he wildly bricks a layup, and allows JJ Reddick to finish the Knicks?
Lee is fake hustle. Haven't seen this much unwarranted praise since Jared Jeffries.
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby KnicksRUs » December 25, 2017, 4:18 pm

He scored 20 points today on 8-13 shooting lol. You're singling out one play. Many reasons we lost tonight and Lee was not one.

And who here has been praising Courtney Lee?
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby taowave » December 25, 2017, 4:19 pm

What about our boy Beasly?

KnicksRUs wrote:Lets relax there with "Team Tank" bud.

But Baker getting minutes is comical. Hornacek has relegated Dotson, our best shooter and one of our best on ball defenders, to the bench for this nobody.

Jack continues to be a scrub.

Also, we NEED Hardaway in the worst way. There's absolutely no one to go to down the stretch who can create their own shot. Porzingis doesn't count. For all his positives he's clueless with double teams. I don't trust him with the ball in his hands.
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby KnicksRUs » December 25, 2017, 4:25 pm

Beasley was Beasley. His negatives cancelled out his positives. He made some nice passes, couple of bad fouls and defensive possessions.

What's odd is that we haven't featured him in our offense since his back to back 30 point games. It's like we forgot how effective that was and how it opened up the entire offense.

Hornacek.......
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby Don Che » December 25, 2017, 5:06 pm

Hahaha everyone chill
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby NewlyKnicked » December 25, 2017, 5:46 pm

We are doomed!!!!
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby taowave » December 25, 2017, 5:53 pm

I'd like to see him at the 3 every now and then

KnicksRUs wrote:Beasley was Beasley. His negatives cancelled out his positives. He made some nice passes, couple of bad fouls and defensive possessions.

What's odd is that we haven't featured him in our offense since his back to back 30 point games. It's like we forgot how effective that was and how it opened up the entire offense.

Hornacek.......
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby KRL » December 25, 2017, 6:06 pm

Well deserved loss which could be the turning point of the season with how many road
games coming up:

- Jack, Ntilikina & Baker went 2-17 and scored 4 points while McConnell dropped 15
- We missed 10 free throws
- We committed at least 5 turnovers in the final half of the fourth quarter
- The loss of Hardaway is really starting to show

Thankfully the draft is full of wing players we need because this could get ugly
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby Don Che » December 25, 2017, 6:34 pm

Turnovers killed us

But Kanter is THAT MAN

I don't see how Tim would change too much but McDonnell who I'm a big fan of killed jack and a lesser extent frank
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby NYGM » December 25, 2017, 6:45 pm

Horny can't win with some of us..

Today he played TWB at SF with KP and Kanter with mixed results..

If we are going to struggle at least unleash Frank.. It's time to make the move and put Jack on the bench..

We are starting to see why we need another offensive player in THJ..

Horny played Kanter down the stretch in the last 2 losses.. He played great though..

What we really need is to start Frank, get THJ back and make a change in our SF situation.. Could be McDermott or TWB.. But we need another weapon put there..

It's mind-blowing how hard does KP has to work for every point.. That need to be fixed ASAP, getting him in rythim is a priority..

Also notice how effective Philly picks were, those guards kept getting open at will.. Those guys are playing hard regardless their record..
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Re: 12/25/17: New York Knicks vs. Philadelphia 76ers (12:00 pm)

Postby ISIAH_THOMAS » December 25, 2017, 7:11 pm

NYGM wrote:Horny can't win with some of us..

Today he played TWB at SF with KP and Kanter with mixed results..

If we are going to struggle at least unleash Frank.. It's time to make the move and put Jack on the bench..

We are starting to see why we need another offensive player in THJ..

Horny played Kanter down the stretch in the last 2 losses.. He played great though..

What we really need is to start Frank, get THJ back and make a change in our SF situation.. Could be McDermott or TWB.. But we need another weapon put there..

It's mind-blowing how hard does KP has to work for every point.. That need to be fixed ASAP, getting him in rythim is a priority..

Also notice how effective Philly picks were, those guards kept getting open at will.. Those guys are playing hard regardless their record..

Kp has to iso because the point guards can't get him easy shots. This offense is imefficient crummy basketball

Start McDermott and get him some threes. We don't take threes
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