12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (L 101-104)

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12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (L 101-104)

Postby rtn393 » December 22, 2017, 6:22 pm

Please post all pre-game predictions, in-game observations, and post-game analysis in this thread, but start separate threads for topics not directly related to the game.


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PROJECTED STARTERS

PG: Jarrett Jack vs. Reggie Jackson
SG: Courtney Lee vs. Reggie Bullock
SF: Lance Thomas vs. Tobias Harris
PF: Kristaps Porzingis vs. Anthony Tolliver
C: Enes Kanter vs. Andre Drummond

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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby maxinquaye11 » December 22, 2017, 6:40 pm

I'm STRAPPED IN! Are you? Lets go knicks!
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby NewlyKnicked » December 22, 2017, 6:45 pm

Very possible win. Jackson can be shut down by Frank, Harris is in a small slump compared to his season start, and Drummond can be kept below 15 pts and 15 rbd with team effort to keep him away from his comfort zone. Go Knicks !!!
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby gradyandrew » December 22, 2017, 7:22 pm

That KOQ/ Anthony Tolliver matchup will be the one to watch. Both squads rely on their bench to outhustle the other team and build a lead the starters can maintain. If Tolliver starts hitting 3s, it will be a tough game.

I'm rooting for Noah to get some playtime. Kanter struggles against big, elite centers, while Noahs defense and rebounding frustrates them.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby Ari_Ingus » December 22, 2017, 7:33 pm

gradyandrew wrote:That KOQ/ Anthony Tolliver matchup will be the one to watch. Both squads rely on their bench to outhustle the other team and build a lead the starters can maintain. If Tolliver starts hitting 3s, it will be a tough game.

I'm rooting for Noah to get some playtime. Kanter struggles against big, elite centers, while Noahs defense and rebounding frustrates them.

So far everything Jeff does makes sense after some while but I still don`t get why Noah doesnt get at least just a bit of game time :( fans also loved him on the one game he played.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby maxinquaye11 » December 22, 2017, 7:37 pm

Because Noah is not a threat on offense just like the OAK is. What Noah can bring (like passing, energy and hustling) the Oak can provide with offense to boot. Its logical.

and to me this is hornacek doing a good job. Keeping his rotation principles (for consistency) and sending a message to everybody that playing time won't be based on salary, tenure or past accomplishments like former DPOY. Not an easy thing foe a coach to do.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby Ari_Ingus » December 22, 2017, 7:39 pm

maxinquaye11 wrote:Because Noah is not a threat on offense just like the OAK is. What Noah can bring like (passing and hustling) the Oak can provide with offense to boot.

and to me this is hornacek doing a good job. Keeping his principles and sending a message that rotation it won't be based on salary or tenure.

how do you know ? he have played like 3 or 5 minutes this season. I believe anyone who shows up at training, supports team and is a great person should have at least 10 minutes at this point :)
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby maxinquaye11 » December 22, 2017, 7:44 pm

By that belief, all 12 should play at least 10 minutes per game.

Everyone knows that Noah is limited offensively air-balls and all.

Us coaches set strict 10 man rotations for establishing roles and consistency. Its logical.

I honestly believe this is the reason why we are winning games despite the injuries -- the strict 10 man rotation, not the 2pg. hehe

Noah will have his time like Beasley and Baker are now having theirs. Its a long season with injuries happening here and there. Right now, Joakim to me is the best motivator and cheerleader on the bench for this young squad. What a great feeling it is to have that in the even a big man goes down, Noah is there to step in and contribute.

How Hornacek convinced Noah (and the GM) of this role without sulking is another unbelievable job of the head coach in my opinion.

and Ive said this way before. only that it was too advanced or early for everybody to see last year. OAK is the better player. He should've been the starter.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby rebound » December 22, 2017, 8:27 pm

Poor Jack. It must be demoralizing having to get destroyed every game by your opponent. He has nothing to gain from this humiliation. Only Perry would consider bringing back his decrepit body.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby maxinquaye11 » December 22, 2017, 8:29 pm

Kp is like a lumbering log out there. Pistons team is more athletic in every position : Kanter vs Drummond Jackson vs Jack Tobias vs Courtney

We need the more athletic 2nd unit.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby rebound » December 22, 2017, 8:31 pm

KP c
beasley pf
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby maxinquaye11 » December 22, 2017, 8:33 pm

up in the air courney for the KP lob dunk, not the bounce pass below C'mon.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby Muzhik1 » December 22, 2017, 8:43 pm

Terrible officiating.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby maxinquaye11 » December 22, 2017, 8:47 pm

We need KP star power for this road game else we're going to lose. Not looking good.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby rebound » December 22, 2017, 8:54 pm

This team is pretty gross. Why is Lance Thomas playing so many minutes? He shouldn't be in the rotation when Timmy is healthy.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby maxinquaye11 » December 22, 2017, 8:58 pm

Noah sighting. Ingus, You might be unto something. "i'd consider breaking the strict 10 man and try anything. Perhaps coach is seeing that KP is really not 100 percent hence.
Its only working during home games, team is clueless when we hit the road.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby rebound » December 22, 2017, 8:59 pm

Courtney Lee and Jack are hilariously bad.
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby maxinquaye11 » December 22, 2017, 9:08 pm

rebound wrote:Courtney Lee and Jack are hilariously bad.


Perhaps its time to shake up the starting five. Either Courtney for McD or Jack for Frank.

Porzingis has no pep in his step.

that Noah point blank miss layup and the screaming. Hilarous. Great job on the defensive end though.

We need Buckets
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby ISIAH_THOMAS » December 22, 2017, 9:12 pm

Is it really a road game in an empty arena
TAKE THAT FOR DATA
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Re: 12/22/17: New York Knicks @ Detroit Pistons (7:00 pm)

Postby thewatcher » December 22, 2017, 9:20 pm

6 minutes for Beas??
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